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budget deal that is balanced and that has enough spending cuts, real spending cuts, to balance any tax revenues? >> well, i think we need to look at long-term and that's where the house has passed the budget. we're still waiting on the senate to pass the budget after 1,350 days. you need to have that on the table from the senate side. you obviously need to have that from the president who has not told us when he is going to send his budget over. is he going to miss those dead looirchz. we have a lot of work to do, but it deals with spending. that's the problem. i want to avoid a downgrade, and i do agree with the vice president of the united states that says we're not going to default on our debt. that's clear. we have enough payments coming in to the treasury to pay our interest on the debt, and that's how we avoid the default, but we've got to focus on the spending problem, and that's what most of my constituents are talking about. >> i want to ask you about the gun control debate because the president is going to be rolling out a new proposal tomorrow, and he is prepared to use exec
budget deal that is balanced and that has enough spending cuts, real spending cuts, to balance any tax revenues? >> well, i think we need to look at long-term and that's where the house has passed the budget. we're still waiting on the senate to pass the budget after 1,350 days. you need to have that on the table from the senate side. you obviously need to have that from the president who has not told us when he is going to send his budget over. is he going to miss those dead looirchz. we...
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bill install and he works his magic and the phones and gets his way on that and gets his way on the tax bill that kennedy couldn't get through. my question is when you look at the great skills and the talents that lbj had dealing with the senate and congress, do they really apply in the era of hyper polarization that we live in? the republican leader. does mitch mcconnell respond with the same? >> i think you have to remember that there was terrific polarization in the 1960s. the democratic party was in control of tourn democrats who were against the kifl rights bills and controlled the mitties. the house were mostly in control of people against the bills. they were also against most of the great society programs. he had to find republicans that would support him. what the hell is say presidency for is a quote of johnson when early 64 before his first state of the union after kennedy died, his entire staff said don't go for the civil rights bill. it's a presidential election year and hang on to the presidency and we will do it after that. he said what the hell is say presidency for? we
bill install and he works his magic and the phones and gets his way on that and gets his way on the tax bill that kennedy couldn't get through. my question is when you look at the great skills and the talents that lbj had dealing with the senate and congress, do they really apply in the era of hyper polarization that we live in? the republican leader. does mitch mcconnell respond with the same? >> i think you have to remember that there was terrific polarization in the 1960s. the...
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the fbi would shut down, prisons won't operate, the court system closes, tax refunds won't go out, the faa would go off line. that's not even talking about what would happen in the financial markets, including the prospect of interest rates rising. do you feel comfortable -- >> but, chris, we've already addressed some of these things about making certain the interest is paid, making certain that we prioritize. you know, budgets are to be about priorities anyway. and i think that there is a way we're going to have to find a way forward, if you will, we're going to have to work through a way forward so that we pay all of our bills, so that we are able to meet what we have to meet as far as our needs go, and that we are reducing what the federal government spends. there's a lot of waste, fraud, and abuse in the federal spending system. everybody knows that. the time has come that everybody engage in this. the agencies, the bureaucracy, they've got to do their part on this. they just can't sit there and say, oh, you're cutting me because you're not giving me the amount of increase that i w
the fbi would shut down, prisons won't operate, the court system closes, tax refunds won't go out, the faa would go off line. that's not even talking about what would happen in the financial markets, including the prospect of interest rates rising. do you feel comfortable -- >> but, chris, we've already addressed some of these things about making certain the interest is paid, making certain that we prioritize. you know, budgets are to be about priorities anyway. and i think that there is...
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of course is taxed by congress, but has no vote in congress, which famously is not the way we're supposed to do things in this country. what, you want to argue with james otis? taxation without representation is tyranny, boston, 1765? the president getting those license plates on the giant limo that is going the carry him to his inauguration officially makes the inauguration better than it otherwise would have been. or maybe ever has been before. we'll see. ay be easy, but when you wake up in the middle of the night it can be frustrating. it's hard to turn off and go back to sleep. intermezzo is the first and only prescription sleep aid approved for use as needed in the middle of the night when you can't get back to sleep. it's an effective sleep medicine you don't take before bedtime. take it in bed only when you need it and have at least four hours left for sleep. do not take intermezzo if you have had an allergic reaction to drugs containing zolpidem, such as ambien. allergic reactions such as shortness of breath or swelling of your tongue or throat may occur and may be fatal. intermez
of course is taxed by congress, but has no vote in congress, which famously is not the way we're supposed to do things in this country. what, you want to argue with james otis? taxation without representation is tyranny, boston, 1765? the president getting those license plates on the giant limo that is going the carry him to his inauguration officially makes the inauguration better than it otherwise would have been. or maybe ever has been before. we'll see. ay be easy, but when you wake up in...
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of course is taxed by congress, but has no vote in congress, which famously is not the way we're supposed to do things in this country. what, you want to argue with james otis? taxation without representation is tyranny, boston, 1765? the president getting those license plates on the giant limo that is going the carry him to his inauguration officially makes the inauguration better than it otherwise would have been. or maybe ever has been before. we'll see. [ male announcer ] staples is the number-one office superstore ink retailer in america. now get $6 back in staples rewards for every ink cartridge you recycle when you spend $50 on hp ink. staples. that was easy. when you spend $50 on hp ink. you know it even after all these years. but your erectile dysfunction - you know,that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doc
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of course is taxed by congress, but has no vote in congress, which famously is not the way we're supposed to do things in this country. what, you want to argue with james otis? taxation without representation is tyranny, boston, 1765? the president getting those license plates on the giant limo that is going the carry him to his inauguration officially makes the inauguration better than it otherwise would have been. or maybe ever has been before. we'll see. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] don't just reject convention. drown it out. introducing the all-new 2013 lexus ls f sport. an entirely new pursuit. introducing the all-new 2013 lexus ls f sport. try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from chase. totally fine. wait. it's full of what? it's full of these gel beads, son. these awesome little blue gel beads. you bought a mat
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as i said the other night, if only the corporations set corporate tax law, it would be pretty low. if only the gun guys set gun laws, there aren't going to be any gun laws. the people who don't own guns or own guns casually will have to do something. >> that's exactly right. that's what the president has taken away from the lessons of newtown. listening to the heartbeat of the people on this right now. you can see it in the polls. you hear it in the language, and right now the gop's message is out of sync with that heartbeat, and i think there are ways and opportunities for them to get back in sync to lay out that concern about the second amendment and why the protection is important, but put it out there in the context of those kids who were killed because that's what people see most of all. >> let's talk about the president's strength now. bob, this monday and -- this tuesday he will have taken the oath a second time. the american people have doubled down on this president, a majority of the american people have voted for this guy. two majority votes. he will have that in his poc
as i said the other night, if only the corporations set corporate tax law, it would be pretty low. if only the gun guys set gun laws, there aren't going to be any gun laws. the people who don't own guns or own guns casually will have to do something. >> that's exactly right. that's what the president has taken away from the lessons of newtown. listening to the heartbeat of the people on this right now. you can see it in the polls. you hear it in the language, and right now the gop's...
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how to stop talking about legitimate rape and insulting women, science 101, creating tax breaks and tax shelters for millionaire campaign donors and, after that ppp poll showing how unpopular congress really is, there's how to increase our approval ratings. what root canals, traffic jams, cockroaches, and head lice are doing to us. and republicans are presumably doing wrong i guess. >>> up next, the house of representatives will be voting tonight on a big aid package for the victims of hurricane sandy. but will republicans go along with it? especially from the south. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ this is amazing, how did you find us? i thought we might be related, so i had a fiber analysis done and sure enough, we're family. but you're not even shredded. you're...crunchy?! that happens sometimes. and you help keep people full with whole grain fiber? just like you guys. [ female announcer ] they're different, but the same. new frosted mini-wheats crunch. a tasty square packed with a crunch... [ crunch! ] ...of whole grain fiber that helps keep you full. it's a b
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of course, the united states constitution gives the power to tax and spend to the congress, and the congress alone. our current deficit is the result of money congress has already borrowed. president obama explained to the american people today how republicans in congress are trying to avoid doing their actual jobs. >> these are bills that have already been racked up. and we need to pay them. so while i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce our deficits, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they've already racked up. >> if the american people do not catch on to the severity of all of this, of defaulting on our debts, the country will be in a dire situation. president obama knows this. he believes it. he has proved it before. and he is not going to play games with economic stability. >> so we've got to pay our bills. and republicans in congress have two choices here. they can act responsibly and pay america's bills, or they can act irresponsibly and put america through another economic crisis. but th
of course, the united states constitution gives the power to tax and spend to the congress, and the congress alone. our current deficit is the result of money congress has already borrowed. president obama explained to the american people today how republicans in congress are trying to avoid doing their actual jobs. >> these are bills that have already been racked up. and we need to pay them. so while i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce our deficits,...
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a lot of people who are lower down the food chain, the economic chain, who are also paying lots of taxes relative to their income, and they need help. we need more education work being done in this country. we need a solid immigration policy. we have to look at climate change. there are a lot of things that the american penal are expecting, and the republican party as they get ready for the next election really has to focus on some of these issues and not ignore them. >> chris, what's sad to me about that is that by virtue of mentioning the phrase climate change, it's almost like colin powell has kicked himself out of the republican party. this party used to play ball on that issue. now they're denying the actual science behind it. they have swung so far right, and my question after all of this, after that interview which was incendiary and was very much a line in the sand for the gop -- >> it's history making. >> when will the republican party admit they have a problem? because every time something like this happens, there is a doubling down, there is a defense, there is an attack on th
a lot of people who are lower down the food chain, the economic chain, who are also paying lots of taxes relative to their income, and they need help. we need more education work being done in this country. we need a solid immigration policy. we have to look at climate change. there are a lot of things that the american penal are expecting, and the republican party as they get ready for the next election really has to focus on some of these issues and not ignore them. >> chris, what's sad...
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by the death tax. people didn't like it before. they don't like it now. >> i feel like with gun laws in particular the second amendment is the go-to argument. it is the banner under which the nra marches. >> i think it's enjoyable for people who felt like they're being bullied by the second amendment, and -- until obama went out and said you have a right to worship freely, i really don't. i tend to think that the people who -- >> i think that it does reframe it so that folks actually feel comfortable coming in, and actually supporting. what i mean by that is, like, nra members are actually overwhelmingly in support of a lot of the stuff with the president is doing, and by saying it actually gives them talking points to talk to their friends and family about it, and that's what they're trying to do. >> right. >> and if glen is right and we're moving towards a second term in which the president is going to be more forth rightly liberal and more principled, then this makes sense, right. this is re-establi
by the death tax. people didn't like it before. they don't like it now. >> i feel like with gun laws in particular the second amendment is the go-to argument. it is the banner under which the nra marches. >> i think it's enjoyable for people who felt like they're being bullied by the second amendment, and -- until obama went out and said you have a right to worship freely, i really don't. i tend to think that the people who -- >> i think that it does reframe it so that folks...
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how to stop talking about legitimate rape and insulting women, science 101, creating task breaks and tax shelters for million air campaign donors and after that ppp poll showing how unpopular congress really is, there's how to increase our approval ratings. what root canals, traffic jams, cockroaches, and head lice are doing to us. and republicans are presumably doing wrong i guess. up next, the house of representatives will be voting tonight on a big aide package for the victims of hurricane sandy. but will republicans go along with it? especially from the south. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> i'm sue herera with your cnbc market wrap. the dounl gained 27 points. the s&p gained a point and the nasdaq slipped about 6 points
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priorities in the order we're putting them, protecting the wealthy, protecting the lowest corporate tax rates since the 1970s and looking at deep cuts that are going to hurt these people. so i hope, and i think there is some sign today that the president is talking about really holding the line on that. >> well, i think the president is going to hold the line. he was pretty strong about that today. gop pollster frank luntz was asked on fox news the republican failure to win over americans with their rhetoric on spending. here it is. >> do you believe the error is smaller government, the adjustment should be more effective and efficient government. why are those words so important? >> because the american people don't care what the size of government. they do care what types of services government gives. and quite frankly, how much government takes. >> and also, whether the government pays its bills or not. but e.j., this is all in the arena of the republican mantra that they want to make sure that they drive home to the american people that government doesn't do anything well, that we m
priorities in the order we're putting them, protecting the wealthy, protecting the lowest corporate tax rates since the 1970s and looking at deep cuts that are going to hurt these people. so i hope, and i think there is some sign today that the president is talking about really holding the line on that. >> well, i think the president is going to hold the line. he was pretty strong about that today. gop pollster frank luntz was asked on fox news the republican failure to win over americans...
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the administration has announced that its transitioning its campaign apparatus into a tax exempt group called organizing for action. that's the new name for what was once called obama for america. the goal according to politico is to play an active role in support of the president's agenda. >> the president has the most exciting campaign apparatus ever built. it's time to turn that loose. it's time to turn that loose for something more than just an election, right? if the nra has got a list then obama for america has a bigger list. >> i'm not sure what they think of that at the dnc, that all of a sudden this entity is going to have perpetual life. >> let's be really clear about this. the dnc is always an extension of the president who is in office. what's interesting about this, and i talked to people who are engaged in this today, and it's still very much in definition. but this is where the answer to your question comes. because if ofa becomes a very effective force as regards legislation, then you begin to define the democratic party based on a legislative agenda which as the mayor
the administration has announced that its transitioning its campaign apparatus into a tax exempt group called organizing for action. that's the new name for what was once called obama for america. the goal according to politico is to play an active role in support of the president's agenda. >> the president has the most exciting campaign apparatus ever built. it's time to turn that loose. it's time to turn that loose for something more than just an election, right? if the nra has got a...
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i didn't say that i would not have any conversations at all about extending the bush tax cuts. i just said we wouldn't extend them for the wealthy. we didn't. you can argue that during the campaign i said -- i set the criteria for wealthy at $250,000, and we ended up being at $400,000, but the fact of the matter is millionaires and billionairres are paying significantly more in taxes just as i said. so for, you know, from the start, my concern was making sure that we had a tax code that was fair and it protected the middle class, and my biggest priority was making sure that middle class taxes did not go up. the difference between this year and 20112 is the fact that we have already made $1.2 trillion in cuts, and at the time i indicated that there were cuts that we could sensibly make that would not damage our economy, would not impede growth. i said at the time i think we should pair it up with revenue in order to have an overall balanced package, but my own budget reflected cuts in discretionary spending. my own budget reflected the cuts that needed to be made, and we've made
i didn't say that i would not have any conversations at all about extending the bush tax cuts. i just said we wouldn't extend them for the wealthy. we didn't. you can argue that during the campaign i said -- i set the criteria for wealthy at $250,000, and we ended up being at $400,000, but the fact of the matter is millionaires and billionairres are paying significantly more in taxes just as i said. so for, you know, from the start, my concern was making sure that we had a tax code that was...
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obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes. but he's just another elitist hypocrite when it comes to a fair share of security. protection for their kids and gun free zones for ours. >> well, according to poe litke yoe, nra is launching a new lobbying push. the group is turning to allies in the gun manufacturing lobby who are making the case that guns are also about jobs. >>> moving to the debt debate. the u.s. government expected to reach the borrowing limit in one month, newt gingrich says republicans are making a mistake by trying to link the debt ceiling to a deal on spending cuts. >> in the end, it's a threat they can't sustain. no one is going to default. no one is going to allow united states to not pay its bills. no one is going to accept the economic costs. it rallies the entire business community to the president's side. i don't think we should pick fights where we're in a position that we can't, in fact, in the end enforce our will. because we have no evidence of president obama's going to compromise. i think the pres
obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes. but he's just another elitist hypocrite when it comes to a fair share of security. protection for their kids and gun free zones for ours. >> well, according to poe litke yoe, nra is launching a new lobbying push. the group is turning to allies in the gun manufacturing lobby who are making the case that guns are also about jobs. >>> moving to the debt debate. the u.s. government expected to reach the borrowing limit in one...
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claim the airline is buying its jet fuel 70 miles away to avoid paying close to $300 million in sales taxes. the airline says the suit's claims are untrue. >>> students at the university of vermont should not bring bottled water had they return to campus because the school has banned its sale for environmental reasons. vermont is the largest public university to prohibit bottled water sales on campus. they've even converted water fountains to bottle-filling stations. >>> over to wall street this tuesday morning. the dow opens the day at 13,507 after adding 18 points yesterday. the s&p and nasdaq were both down. overseas the nikkei gained 77 points but the hang seng fell 31. >>> the nasdaq and the s&p slipped monday thanks to worries that apple has gone sour. shares of the tech titan dipped below 500 for the first time in nearly a year after reports the company has cut orders for iphone parts due to weak demand. >>> meanwhile, pc maker dell surged 13% on fresh takeover talk. after the bell, fed chief ben bernanke praised washington's recent fiscal cliff deal which he said probably would have
claim the airline is buying its jet fuel 70 miles away to avoid paying close to $300 million in sales taxes. the airline says the suit's claims are untrue. >>> students at the university of vermont should not bring bottled water had they return to campus because the school has banned its sale for environmental reasons. vermont is the largest public university to prohibit bottled water sales on campus. they've even converted water fountains to bottle-filling stations. >>> over...
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right now you're taxed up until you make $113,000. let's raise that cap to $150,000. there has been numerous proposals by democrats to do this. and this adds years and years of life to social security. so let's put that on the table and see what the other side comes back with and have that conversation. >> one of the proposals that intrigued me that you have out there is this idea that there needs to be budgeting for natural disaster clean-ups. you come from the state of florida, i'm a floridian. we know all too well, we see what's going on with sandy. those are the first votes you voted oranges which is to spend money on these clean-ups. do you think you can budget this? >> well, when you live here in south florida and you are, you know, live in fear of hurricanes every season, it's definitely in the back of your mind frequently. and is there was a bill that was put forward several years ago by some local south floridan members of congress, a national catastrophic fund. when you look across the country, basically everywhere there is natural disasters from floods and
right now you're taxed up until you make $113,000. let's raise that cap to $150,000. there has been numerous proposals by democrats to do this. and this adds years and years of life to social security. so let's put that on the table and see what the other side comes back with and have that conversation. >> one of the proposals that intrigued me that you have out there is this idea that there needs to be budgeting for natural disaster clean-ups. you come from the state of florida, i'm a...
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i think the main reason that they -- they don't want fica taxes to get so low that people get used to paying an amount that can't fund the social security trust fund. it's odd because of all the things we discussed in the fiscal cliff. >> yeah. >> most of them wish use that might affect economic growth in the future. this was a tax that, according to most people rating it, was worth about 0.8 points of economic growth, and they -- no one talked about it. >> few were talking about it. they were just trying to get to a deal as you're saying there now, dave. now we're seeing this real impact on the paychecks, might there be political backlash from voters for the president or for republicans on this. i almost said the beauty. kind of using the word ironically. the beauty of this issue like this where neither party advocated for it. neither party thinks they can be blamed. >> hurt by it. >> we know what republicans propose in various rounds of fiscal cliff negotiations, and they never proposed an extension to this. they could cynically say, look, and you hear some kind of republican pundit
i think the main reason that they -- they don't want fica taxes to get so low that people get used to paying an amount that can't fund the social security trust fund. it's odd because of all the things we discussed in the fiscal cliff. >> yeah. >> most of them wish use that might affect economic growth in the future. this was a tax that, according to most people rating it, was worth about 0.8 points of economic growth, and they -- no one talked about it. >> few were talking...
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and you were targeted because you voted for a tax increase. but at the time you said, "there are times in all our careers when we must ask ourselves why we're here." marjorie, great to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." >> nice to be here. >> you are an example of courage, and the president has said this is going to take courage. can you apply what you went through to today's gun debate? what do you think? >> oh, well, i was also targeted. i mean, they just loaded both of the barrels and came after me also. i was just talking tonight with somebody who worked for me in my congressional office, arlene halpernin. she said the phones never stopped ringing. and that's one of the problems. but as a member of congress you have to understand that people do not call in when they're satisfied. so nine out of ten calls said vote against this. and at that time it was in '93 and we were talking about an omnibus spending bill. it was a deficit reduction bill but of course it was called the tax increase. and there were things in the bill that i liked
and you were targeted because you voted for a tax increase. but at the time you said, "there are times in all our careers when we must ask ourselves why we're here." marjorie, great to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." >> nice to be here. >> you are an example of courage, and the president has said this is going to take courage. can you apply what you went through to today's gun debate? what do you think? >> oh, well, i was also targeted. i mean,...
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i thought conservatives hated taxes. burnett said this liberal tax exists to make a point. >> we have a fiscal problem in this country. we've got to deal with it or we don't have a country. so to kind of help make that point a little bit, i charge them just a little bit more. >> yeah, it's all our fault. to add insult to injury, burnett donates the extra dollar to the conservative cause like the heritage foundation. jim demint will like that. but vernal, utah, is located in solid red county, folks. 90% of the residents there voted for mitt romney. less than 9% voted for barack obama. burnett's controversial pricing is getting him free publicity and lots of love from local republicans. but his stunt will not single-handedly fund jim demint and the heritage foundation. at $1 per liberals, let's add it all up. >> actually, all three liberals have been happy to pay it. >> there you go. heritage foundation, good luck with the three extra bucks. don't spend it -- well, yeah, go ahead, spend it in one place. >>> tonight in our
i thought conservatives hated taxes. burnett said this liberal tax exists to make a point. >> we have a fiscal problem in this country. we've got to deal with it or we don't have a country. so to kind of help make that point a little bit, i charge them just a little bit more. >> yeah, it's all our fault. to add insult to injury, burnett donates the extra dollar to the conservative cause like the heritage foundation. jim demint will like that. but vernal, utah, is located in solid...
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as for the bill itself, the pathway to citizenship would come with a payment of fines and back taxes. the bill would also include a nationwide legal verification system for all newly hired workers. additional visas for highly skilled immigrants and a guest worker program. top senate democrat harry reid sounded optimistic about its passage. >> tentatively on a path to citizenship which has been a stumbling block. we need to promote bipartisan bills quicker than you think. >> you are confident this will amount to something substantial? >> we'll do something significant. >> then again, there's always the lower chamber. according to texas congressman lamar smith, any bill with a pathway to citizenship will have a hard time passing. phil, the georgia republican who weighed in so very eloquently on todd aken's rape comments this weekend, told the "new york times" he remains opposed to amnesty of any kind. joining us now is telemundo jose diaz. it is always a good day when you are on this program, my friend. great to see you. >> thank you so much. thank you so much. >> jose, let me ask you -
as for the bill itself, the pathway to citizenship would come with a payment of fines and back taxes. the bill would also include a nationwide legal verification system for all newly hired workers. additional visas for highly skilled immigrants and a guest worker program. top senate democrat harry reid sounded optimistic about its passage. >> tentatively on a path to citizenship which has been a stumbling block. we need to promote bipartisan bills quicker than you think. >> you are...
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this is the same crew that were saying they would never see taxes go up. we don't need every member in a republican party. we need 218 votes in the house for a reasonable package. and, you know, you have to watch for people to do, not just what they say. in the u.s. capitol, you can't walk in here with a grun. you can't walk in here with an assault weapon. over in the supreme court which says you have this unlimited right to have a gun, you can't walk in there with a gun. why should people walk sbhinto schools or movie theaters? that congress should provide for the american public. we know that guns can be dangerous in the wrong hands. that's why we have all of the rules and regulations and the security protections here. and we need to make sure that in our day care centers and our communities, we provide a better safety environment for our kirn. >> now, rooiyan, it seems like e republ lip cans, and i noticed the congressman said we don't need them all, some republicans do sound like they are more open to possible gun legislation more than some of the far
this is the same crew that were saying they would never see taxes go up. we don't need every member in a republican party. we need 218 votes in the house for a reasonable package. and, you know, you have to watch for people to do, not just what they say. in the u.s. capitol, you can't walk in here with a grun. you can't walk in here with an assault weapon. over in the supreme court which says you have this unlimited right to have a gun, you can't walk in there with a gun. why should people walk...
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compared with the fiscal cliff which was by all accounts a roughly familiar tax and spending debate, this one has far more import because it will determine whether among other things the united states continues to make good on the obligations it has already undertaken. interest and principal on the debt we have borrowed. our credit rating which was so famously downgraded in the summer of 2011 hangs in the balance here. and of course, people on both sides of the aisle are fighting over whether it is fair game to use the debt ceiling as a piece of political leverage to get the government to stop its spending. on the one hand, people on the right say, well, what else are we going to use? we are engaging in sort of financial madness spending so much so we have to use whatever tool is available there and you heard the president yesterday, tamron, saying this is like taking the economy hostage by threatening not to pay debts that we have already incured. >> tyler, as i mentioned, the dow up just a little bit today. how soon will we see perhaps start to see an impact on the arrows on the sc
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how to stop talking about legitimate rape and insulting women, science 101, creating tax breaks and tax shelters for millionaire campaign donors and, after that ppp poll showing how unpopular congress really is, there's how to increase our approval ratings. what root canals, traffic jams, cockroaches, and head lice are doing to us. and republicans are presumably doing wrong i guess. >>> up next, the house of representatives will be voting tonight on a big aid package for the victims of hurricane sandy. but will republicans go along with it? especially from the south. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. southern tornado, for example, no one raised the question of spending cuts. but now in the northeast, when the aid was needed there, this issue of fiscal conservatism and trying to trim the budget in one place to help others elsewhere became so heated. so what you've got now is it was a process but they have passed more than $50 billion in aid. it covers a range of things including money for fema to rebuilding transportation and so forth. it has to go back to the senate, b
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they couldn't win that battle regarding taxes. with this one, they have leverage. >> they thought it was their leverage but still when you go in to this debate, tamron, they control only one part of the government. it's a house of representatives. democrats control the senate. they control the white house. so while house republicans do have some leverage, we also learned something from the fiscal cliff negotiations that john boner's willing to bring legislation to the floor that doesn't have this majority of support from the party and pretty big, as well. >> all right. mark, thank you very much. greatly appreciate it. talk to you tomorrow on these things. >>> former president george h.w. bush has now been released from the hospital in houston today and headed home. mr. bush was admitted to the hospital around thanksgiving, suffering from a severe case of bronchitis. in the stay, developed a fever. doctors say he'll continue physical therapy at home. mr. bush is 88 years old. >>> my starting point is not to worry about the politics
they couldn't win that battle regarding taxes. with this one, they have leverage. >> they thought it was their leverage but still when you go in to this debate, tamron, they control only one part of the government. it's a house of representatives. democrats control the senate. they control the white house. so while house republicans do have some leverage, we also learned something from the fiscal cliff negotiations that john boner's willing to bring legislation to the floor that doesn't...
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tells him how much he's allowed to collect in taxes. he says there's a difference there. i have to borrow it. no, you can't borrow that. the whole debt ceiling thing itself is a crazy thing. it forces the president to do something illegal, either to defy congress on what it told him to spend or defy congress and borrow when it told him not to. >> krugman was one of the leading proponents of the trillion dollar coin idea which involved minting a platinum coin which would be deposited at the federal reserve allowing the government to pay off bills should congress fail to act. over the weekend the treasury d department ruled out the idea. >>> before we go to break. shoot me an e-mail at waytooearly@msnbc and let me know why you're awake. you can also tweet me. >>> still ahead on "way too early," a wild weekend for the nfl as the atlanta fallons break their playoff slump in dramatic fashion. i'll bring you all the weekend highlights next in sports, if i make it. >>> and it was a big night for fans of "homeland" and a little-known show called "game change." we'll also get a ch
tells him how much he's allowed to collect in taxes. he says there's a difference there. i have to borrow it. no, you can't borrow that. the whole debt ceiling thing itself is a crazy thing. it forces the president to do something illegal, either to defy congress on what it told him to spend or defy congress and borrow when it told him not to. >> krugman was one of the leading proponents of the trillion dollar coin idea which involved minting a platinum coin which would be deposited at...
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obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes, but he is just another elitest hypocrite when it comes to protection for their kids. >> the nra suffered a big loss in new york today with governor andrew cuomo signing into law the toughest gun control legislation in the country, strengthening the state's existing assault weapons ban. >> going to put rules in place that actually protect innocent people in society. that is what the state of new york is doing today. and it says common sense can win. and good people can win. and you can actually get government to work and get good things to happen. you can overpower the extremists with intelligence and with reason and with common sense. >> the nra immediately released this statement. these gun control schemes have failed in the past and will have no impact on public safety and crime, sadly, the new york legislature gave no consideration to that reality while lawmakers could have taken a step towards strengthening mental health reporting. instead, they opted for stopping the rights of gun owners and they did it under a veil of secre
obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes, but he is just another elitest hypocrite when it comes to protection for their kids. >> the nra suffered a big loss in new york today with governor andrew cuomo signing into law the toughest gun control legislation in the country, strengthening the state's existing assault weapons ban. >> going to put rules in place that actually protect innocent people in society. that is what the state of new york is doing today. and it says...
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in terms of tax rates. so fairness would be a part of -- >> that's established. now we're ready for the medicare reform, right? >> well, i guess we're ready to start talking about them joe. >> mark i love what you've written. obama's moment to call us to a greater collective commitment. i think this really resonates with something we've been yearning for on the show. you say this. to borrow a signature phrase let me be clear, this day is not about him, it's about us our nation, our future. where do we go from here? what is the right path forward? how do we come together? here's what i do want to hear. the word "we." a call to a greater collective commitment, a recognition of the sacrifices to come a signal of willingness nessness to do the unpopular to take on his political base a surprise or two, humility faith, gratitude, and keep it short. how great a legacy to leave to call together an anxious nation to calm the divide and ask brothers to lay down their arms to inspire them to a greater cause, to fight
in terms of tax rates. so fairness would be a part of -- >> that's established. now we're ready for the medicare reform, right? >> well, i guess we're ready to start talking about them joe. >> mark i love what you've written. obama's moment to call us to a greater collective commitment. i think this really resonates with something we've been yearning for on the show. you say this. to borrow a signature phrase let me be clear, this day is not about him, it's about us our...
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. >> stop cap and tax! stop cap and tax. >> meanwhile, across the country, a new political force was mobilizing, the tea party movement, who aimed to push the government further to the right. >> stop spending money, now. >> in the 2010 midterm elections, the republicans, many backed by the tea party, won the house and weakened the democrats in the senate. most of these freshman came to washington now, not to meet and negotiate, but to demolish a government they saw as bloated, rotten, tyrannical. >> the reason we came here, the new freshman are here, is because the american people said, enough. >> can you hear us now? can you hear us now? >> sometimes the opposition to the president took an uglier, even racist tone. false claims first heard during the campaign reemerged, questioning obama's religion, denying he was born in the country. >> he is not an american citizen! he is a citizen of kenya! >> did it surprise you that at this point in our history, they would try to de-americanize this guy? did it surpri
. >> stop cap and tax! stop cap and tax. >> meanwhile, across the country, a new political force was mobilizing, the tea party movement, who aimed to push the government further to the right. >> stop spending money, now. >> in the 2010 midterm elections, the republicans, many backed by the tea party, won the house and weakened the democrats in the senate. most of these freshman came to washington now, not to meet and negotiate, but to demolish a government they saw as...
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we have to deal with the jobs and the low-entry wages, and expand the earned tax credit and child tax credit and work incentive will make a difference to many. don't cut early education, but make sure you are breaking through the things that cause dependency, and working hard to say, every child is ready for school and every child has high quality pre-k and kindergarten and if you did that, you could also create new job, but here, we have new race to the top requirement requirements. and poor standards, but we don't have pre-k or kindergarten in 40 states to help children meet those standards. >> i want to underline the parental jobs and wages, but a report says that in no i state can -- no state can an individual working full-time at the minimum wage afford the fair market rent for a two-h bedroom apartment for his or her family. we have created a minimum wage where you cannot have an apartment. >> and you know homelessness is rampant just as hunger is rampant and if it weren't for the safety net, it would be worse. children were the poorest americans before the recession, but since
we have to deal with the jobs and the low-entry wages, and expand the earned tax credit and child tax credit and work incentive will make a difference to many. don't cut early education, but make sure you are breaking through the things that cause dependency, and working hard to say, every child is ready for school and every child has high quality pre-k and kindergarten and if you did that, you could also create new job, but here, we have new race to the top requirement requirements. and poor...
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it depends which part is borrowed and which is paid for through taxes. they're making a philosophical point. i don't doubt the sincerity. he cares about deficits. but at a time like this, it's a delay. and i don't know how he can square his sympathy for victims because he was a victim, too, at one point with this political point he wants to make about budget. yes. there is discussion to be had about budgets and deficits. but right now this has a real impact, these delays. so making the point about deficits is stopping people from getting the help they need. and if he wants to have that debate, have it in the bigger context. this $60 billion, it's a drop in the ocean of bigger debt problems and they are long-term debt problems. they need to talk about them, but this isn't the point or time to do it. there's a time and place. this isn't it. >> and my point is -- i don't want to just beat up on congressman mulvaney. 137 voted for this. >> at least he had the guts to defend himself. >> people in this country that we have gotten to the point in politics where
it depends which part is borrowed and which is paid for through taxes. they're making a philosophical point. i don't doubt the sincerity. he cares about deficits. but at a time like this, it's a delay. and i don't know how he can square his sympathy for victims because he was a victim, too, at one point with this political point he wants to make about budget. yes. there is discussion to be had about budgets and deficits. but right now this has a real impact, these delays. so making the point...
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on the tax deal, house republican leaders had political cover from senate republicans. on sandy, chris christie provided the political cover, leaving house leaders, frankly, cowering. now the kotch brothers, through a group they backed, called americans for prosperity, are the latest to give boehner and other house leaders cover on the debt ceiling, as they get their rank and file to pick other political fights. tim phillips, president of americans for prosperity, told the financial times, quote, we're saying calibrate your message, focus on long-term spending instead of long-term debt. focusing on the debt ceiling makes the message more difficult. when i asked walden about the debt ceiling yesterday, he was clearly noncommittal, hinting on where the republican leadership maybe is on this. if there's not a majority in the house republican to raise the debt limit, but there is a majority in the house of representatives to raise a clean debt limit, would this leadership be willing to do that? >> you know, let's look at how do we avoid default on america and american's deb
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, that we've got to fight to cut corporate tax rates, we've got to inform entitlements, we've got to do these things i think conservatives are best suited to do, instead of being engaged on fights on the periphery. we've got to narrow our focus and get back to first principles, and if we don't do that, the republican party's going to be in the minority for a very long time. >> joe scarborough from "morning joe," i like "afternoon joe" too. thank you very much. >> i like your time slot a lot better than ours, actually. 1:00's okay. >> try it some time, sleep in a bit. >> i'd like to. >>> coming up next, the gun lobby reacts to the president's proposals and that nra ad. >>> plus, biden, bloomberg, and gabby giffords. there's a trio inside "time's" special edition on gun control. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. i'm up next, but now i'm singing the heartburn blues. hold on, prilosec isn't for fast relief. cue up alka-seltzer. it stops heartburn fast. ♪ oh what a relief it is! maybe you want to incorporate a business. or protect your family with a will or living trust.
, that we've got to fight to cut corporate tax rates, we've got to inform entitlements, we've got to do these things i think conservatives are best suited to do, instead of being engaged on fights on the periphery. we've got to narrow our focus and get back to first principles, and if we don't do that, the republican party's going to be in the minority for a very long time. >> joe scarborough from "morning joe," i like "afternoon joe" too. thank you very much. >>...
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. >> entitlement reform and without tax reform and without some spending plan that congress can accept and the country can accept, the poll also said that we're talking about obama before the show that the majority of americans believe what's hindering economic growth is the fact that washington continually finds itself at an impasse or a position around how to resolve what seem to be to me and i think a lot of americans commonsense balanced solutions that should be put forward. without that, all of this, i don't think, comes to fruition. >> let me say one thing before we go. michael, if, in fact, the ofa infrastructure does work, does that not then -- does that not mean now all future presidencies will have -- >> the eternal campaign. to some extent, you do already, but this will rachet up one notch. >> it's also -- the political parties have disintegrated in terms of power. the republican side, everything is -- >> understatements. >> i know. the tea party groups, the stuff, those are now the epicenters of the political power right now. it's not the rnc. what organize for action is go
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in favor of boosting sales tax rates. free market economists have praised the idea, but liberal economists say poor people would be bearing the brunt of the cost because they spent a greater share of income on consumer goods. can i stop here for one second? >> uh-huh. >> steve rattner, here's a great example. bobby jindal, like me, a really conservative guy economically. but has come out and spoken out against the stupid wing of the republican party. he's been very responsible. remember right after the election? >> yeah. >> like come on, we have got to be more inclusive, guys, and got to stop being the stupid party. here's a great example. you can disagree with bobby jindal on economics, which i'm sure you do -- >> right. >> -- because he's a lot like me, but you can respect bobby jindal as being a smart guy who wants to expand the party and be more inclusive. >> yeah. i agree. i respect him for all those things. and i think he is part of the future of the party. this particular proposal, i think what you said about it is
in favor of boosting sales tax rates. free market economists have praised the idea, but liberal economists say poor people would be bearing the brunt of the cost because they spent a greater share of income on consumer goods. can i stop here for one second? >> uh-huh. >> steve rattner, here's a great example. bobby jindal, like me, a really conservative guy economically. but has come out and spoken out against the stupid wing of the republican party. he's been very responsible....
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i would look back to that tax vote after christmas. three-quarters of the republican party did not go along with speaker boehner on the compromise on increasing taxes. these guys don't care what leadership has to say about this issue. they want to shrink government. they were elected to shrink government. and whether it's defaulted, whether it's shutting down the government, whether it's allowing sequestration to kick in, they're going to make it happen in the next couple of months. and nobody knows how that will play out. >> we may just find out what happens when we reach the debt limit. jim, in spite of what the white house's grand plans for gun reform may be, there still may be not a lot of backing in congress. if you look at even republicans in the midwest and republicans in the north, how does this play out right now in congress? >> well, right. there's going to be a lot of focus on gun control. there has been since the shooting, and there will be when the president unveils his package today. i would caution people to look at the
i would look back to that tax vote after christmas. three-quarters of the republican party did not go along with speaker boehner on the compromise on increasing taxes. these guys don't care what leadership has to say about this issue. they want to shrink government. they were elected to shrink government. and whether it's defaulted, whether it's shutting down the government, whether it's allowing sequestration to kick in, they're going to make it happen in the next couple of months. and nobody...
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basically creates a refundable tax credit for a gun owner who turns in their fire arm to state poli police. >> who are this is people? how could they be so insensitive to not understand the weight of what they're doing and target practice, so starting at age 4, and shooting at coffins, do they not understand what happened in sandy hook? what happens in our cities all over this nation with youngsters dies through this gun violent? >> i think the membership should rise up against a leadership that's so out of touch. >> one thing that has come forward is the anticipation of these 19 suggestions that's come forth, that he could take action on right away. one of your colleagues, said i will seek to thwart of action by any means necessary. when you hear about how obstinate people on the right already are for the potential of any type of executive order, what is your rye action to hearing how people wo throw out the word "impeachment"? >> it's always good to know what's being proposed before you react to it. i think my colleague needs to take a step back, see what the proposals are, and then you
basically creates a refundable tax credit for a gun owner who turns in their fire arm to state poli police. >> who are this is people? how could they be so insensitive to not understand the weight of what they're doing and target practice, so starting at age 4, and shooting at coffins, do they not understand what happened in sandy hook? what happens in our cities all over this nation with youngsters dies through this gun violent? >> i think the membership should rise up against a...
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obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes, but he's just another elitist hypocrite when it comes to a fair share of security. >> joining me now is susan page, washington bureau chief for "usa today" and ron fournier, national correspondent and editorial director for the "national journal." good morning. >> good morning. >> morning. >> so the president's children, doesn't matter, republican, democrat, are generally considered off-limits. ron, what do you make of this nra ad? >> they really blew it. this is an organization that has a lot of power and a lot of credibility and has a legitimate purpose in our society to protect the second amendment but why would you put out an ad like that that is false? the president is not opposed to security in the schools. he does not -- in fact, we have a lot of schools in this country that already have security. he just doesn't think that arming guards in schools is the only answer to cracking down on school shooting. it's just a cringe-worthy exploitive ad that undermines the nra, undermines the cause and frankly, if you are a second a
obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes, but he's just another elitist hypocrite when it comes to a fair share of security. >> joining me now is susan page, washington bureau chief for "usa today" and ron fournier, national correspondent and editorial director for the "national journal." good morning. >> good morning. >> morning. >> so the president's children, doesn't matter, republican, democrat, are generally considered off-limits....
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will john boehner at the end of the day have to do what he did with the tax bill, which is basically cede control of the house more or less to the democrats and have most of his party vote against something but allow a vote to come up that will let democrats and nancy pelosi yet again rescue the day. >> okay, jared. i want to play you something the president said on monday. you referenced it yourself. take a listen. >> they will not collect or ransom an exchange for not crashing the american economy. the financial well-being of the american people is not leverage to be used. >> jared, i put it to you, do they not realize this fight isn't just hurting the economy. it's also helping this president look like the only grown-up in washington. >> i don't think they're calculus on this stuff is as rational as your question suggests, of course. but, again, if you actually get out of this beltway, and i try to do it as much as possible, and talk to people, the question i consistently get is why doesn't washington really care about the problems that we face? and when you mention recent housing
will john boehner at the end of the day have to do what he did with the tax bill, which is basically cede control of the house more or less to the democrats and have most of his party vote against something but allow a vote to come up that will let democrats and nancy pelosi yet again rescue the day. >> okay, jared. i want to play you something the president said on monday. you referenced it yourself. take a listen. >> they will not collect or ransom an exchange for not crashing the...
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on the one side republicans are saying taxes cannot be considered a part of the equation, and we need to cut spending dollar for dollar for any debt ceiling increase. >> right. the president is saying revenues must be part of an equation, and he does not want to use the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. so what do they say, skip congress all together because they can't get it done. >> manu raju of politico and marilyn of "roll call," thank you both very much. president obama may have a new immigration plan in the works and what does that mean for his second agenda? and you may have more cash to put in the bank. after the break we'll examine the reason why. you're watching the place for politics. reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. ♪ i don't wanna be right [ record scratch ] what?! it's not bad for you. it just tastes that way. [ female announcer ] honey nut cheerios cereal -- heart-healthy, whole grain oats. you can't go wrong loving it.
on the one side republicans are saying taxes cannot be considered a part of the equation, and we need to cut spending dollar for dollar for any debt ceiling increase. >> right. the president is saying revenues must be part of an equation, and he does not want to use the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. so what do they say, skip congress all together because they can't get it done. >> manu raju of politico and marilyn of "roll call," thank you both very much. president...
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and many thought president obama wanted to go over in order to raise taxes. to do the same thing over the debt ceiling and get full blame for it, it could genuinely destroy the republican party, of course while destroying the economy. >> there is that little problem, for republicans. so what about this point, ezra, that the president, the federal government could easily meet its obligations on actual debt payments through bonds and that sort of thing. but it would be the spending, the discretionary spending that they would have to cut under these circumstances. so there wouldn't ever be, many republicans insist they wouldn't ever be a realistic prospect of default in this. and that is why the president uses the word "obligations," instead of the word debt because they may just agree with them that there wouldn't actually be a debt default. >> it is unclear, we literally don't know what would happen because it never happened bef e before. so a legal authority is not all obvious. so there is a question, for the treasury department, to decide if we pay off the b
and many thought president obama wanted to go over in order to raise taxes. to do the same thing over the debt ceiling and get full blame for it, it could genuinely destroy the republican party, of course while destroying the economy. >> there is that little problem, for republicans. so what about this point, ezra, that the president, the federal government could easily meet its obligations on actual debt payments through bonds and that sort of thing. but it would be the spending, the...
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at the end of the day, it doesn't really change the status of washingtonians who feel they are taxed without being represented in d.c. but symbolically, something that washingtonians were looking for and he's delivering on that, made some people happy yesterday. >> carrie, great to see you. thank you. >> thanks, thomas. >>> as we await the president's announcement on gun control proposals, we asked and you answered, did the nra go too far by focusing on president obama's daughters in a new ad. k.j.l. tweets yes, this new ad is disgusting. you can be a member, want to protect second amendment rights and say no to assault weapons. from patricia, does the nra understand the magnitude of the potus' daughters being a member of the first family and what that entails? from rusty, absolutely. family members should always be off limits. we encourage you to keep the comments coming in to us on twitter or facebook. also, how does the white house now respond to the nra ad? we'll have a live report from the white house next. [ male announcer ] there are only so many foods that make kids happy. an
at the end of the day, it doesn't really change the status of washingtonians who feel they are taxed without being represented in d.c. but symbolically, something that washingtonians were looking for and he's delivering on that, made some people happy yesterday. >> carrie, great to see you. thank you. >> thanks, thomas. >>> as we await the president's announcement on gun control proposals, we asked and you answered, did the nra go too far by focusing on president obama's...